something or other

何とか彼とか: something or other

concrete / specific

even if one says

something concrete, tangible

to avoid

to avoid

南都: alternate name for Heijōkyō, the capital of Japan during the Nara period. Nanto ("southern capital") is used in contrast with Hokuto ("Northern capital"), an alternate name for Heiankyō.

An interjection conveying surprise or being emotionally moved.

a southern capital, especially referring to Nara / (historical) the southern imperial court of Yoshino